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SFTP/SSH Support

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clynx
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: SFTP/SSH Support Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

just a short Question, will there be Support for SFTP and SSH Uploads?
It would be really nice. I think when you use some parts of PuTTY, including there Pageant, and Proxy Support it would be a really good Product, and it couldn't be so hard to Implement ;o)

FTP shouldn't be used IMHO, so SSH would be a great improvment ...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Absoutely. From day one, this has been planned, and in parallel with the release development, we've been working on this. Putty in our view isn't the best route to go as it's not written as a library, and although doable, there are better options. Whilst good, we also found the CURL library for FTP not to be perfect, and so in reworking CURL internals, we made various performance improvements and bug fixes.

We've actually been waiting to see how long it would be before anyone mentioned this Smile As stated, it's part of our strategy for the product, but it seems to be the case that most end users use FTP servers, and many have only FTP access. So with FTP being the most prevalent, it was the first and most crucial thing to offer, but we're not stopping at that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there somethink like Roadmap or something like that, for when a Feature is planed to be integerated?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be in version 2.1 or later. There's no fixed date for that release yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news on this ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a feature yet, but is planned for a future version. Putty isn't the way to go, but another ssh library that we're using and enhancing for another development is promising, and likely to form the backbone of the future ssh support.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that putty isn't the solution, I would have used a library like http://www.bitvise.com/sshlib.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it still planned or upcoming? I couldn't find it in 3.0 trial.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a big feature for a next release. Most end users with shared hosts, which is most end users, have FTP and so that's the most important feature to support. However ssh would be a nice feature for completeness and top of the list for new features.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that there is a "enable https" option, is this the new sftp/ssl feature, or does it have some other function? I enabled it, built a new installation, and can't figure out how to connect through sftp, is there something I'm missing?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sftp isn't in there yet. The https option is for support of users with https only web servers. Most users will obviously have http access to their web server, and the increase in installer size for https support is unnecessary. However, we did come across a case where an end user only had https access to their domain, and so added the https support as an option to cover that scenario whilst keeping installer size down for the majority.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I get a copy of that, because it's not listed on the downloads and I only have access to sftp as well?

PLEASE?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I get a copy of that, because it's not listed on the downloads and I only have access to sftp as well?


It sounds like you want to install Loaders, and if you have ssh access (if you have sftp you will almost certainly have ssh too), the easiest thing is to ssh to the server, wget the tar.gz Loaders archive and unpack locally on the server. This will be prove to be quicker than installing from a local machine.

If you really only have sftp and no ssh, you could unpack a Loaders zip or tar.gz archive locally and sftp the files to the server with filezilla.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any prediction on when you'll be adding sftp support? This is THE major feature that is lacking. I come across customers from time to time who refuse to use ftp because of security.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No prediction currently. Having an archive version of packages is still advisable because there can be users who don't use windows clients, or who simply prefer to install an archive directly rather than use an installer, which can include users with full server access (who are generally those with ssh/sftp). With full server access it can be more efficient to upload and unpack a tar.gz file locally plus making any chmods locally (and you could even give a shell script to do that), but installing is much more of a pain and complicated for users with only FTP access (which is most shared users), and thiis is where IPF really delivers the benefits.
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